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Mormonism, Plant Medicine, and Brannon Patrick

By May 21, 2020Podcast

 

 

There are certain shifts in our lives that simply do not happen for us but also through us. One of those that often transforms us from the inside out is a spiritual awakening. This episode’s guest, Brannon Patrick of Therapy Utah, sits down with Corin Grillo to tell us about his journey. Having grown up in a Mormon upbringing, Brannon suddenly found himself in a spiritual experience in Peru that is making him challenge and reimagine his religion and culture, most especially in his practice as a licensed clinical social worker. Working to treat every kind of addiction in every setting, Brannon is seeking to provide people a healthier way to heal where they liberate themselves from a rigid religious system that causes them to have a hard time being free and being themselves. He tells us more about this deep work he does with people and his own discovery of a mystical world that connects him to God and the medicine for the heart and soul, Mother Earth.

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Mormonism, Plant Medicine, and Brannon Patrick

You’re meeting a good friend of mine, Brannon Patrick. We’ve gotten to know each other and I love this guy. He’s full of surprises. Let me tell you a little bit about him. He is from Utah. He was raised Mormon and he’s a licensed clinical social worker working with families out there treating things like addiction. He’s an ultra-relationship expert and has many classes, courses on his website dealing with that. What we’re talking to him about is trippy. He’s grown up in this Mormon upbringing and at the same time, he’s having a spiritual awakening that is making him challenge and reimagine his religion, upbringing and culture. He’s excited to share his journey with you.

I hope this inspires you to start listening to the voice inside of you that is trying to break free. There are many institutions out there that are in a way crumbling because the mystical truth is getting activated in all of us. Brannon is the perfect example of his journey from believing in this traditional religion. We talk a lot about the belief systems with the Mormons and what is happening to him. I’ll give you a little hint. It all started and kicked off with a plant medicine journey in the Sacred Valley of Peru. I can’t wait for you to hear his journey. It’s inspiring. Brannon is an all-around cool guy. I love chilling with him and I love hanging out with them. I hope you enjoy this episode where we deconstruct Mormonism and we inspire you to start listening to your heart, owning your truth and activating your mission out there in the world. I hope you enjoy this episode.

Brannon, welcome to the show. It’s good to see you.

It’s good to see you too.

I’m glad you’re talking to me because you have some fascinating things going on at the heart and the soul level. I know on certain levels, you have been challenged by this. To give a little background because you come from a very traditional therapy background and also your culture and your religious upbringing as a Mormon, there are some interesting shifts that are happening for you that are happening through you. It’s not you’re seeking it out. Can you share with me what’s going on for you right now and where you’re at?

To give a little bit of background, I was raised in Salt Lake, a homegrown Utah, Mormon boy. I’m very conservative and had a great childhood. People ask me all the time like, “How did you become a therapist?” The truth is, Corin, I don’t have a good story and I don’t know. God pushed me in this direction and I didn’t know what I was going to be when I grew up. I knew I was good at empathizing with people and connecting to them. I have an undergrad in Economics and then I got a Master’s in Social Work. I found that I was good at connecting but also pushing people and being straight with people. I could use all these therapeutic modalities and things like that but my magic as the therapist was being able to connect and challenge people to change their lives. I started in addiction doing a lot of addiction work. I’d like to say I was in the trenches. I gravitated toward the hardest stuff. That couple that was ready to rip each other’s heads off, I loved that. Come to my office and let’s have some fun.

That’s funny. I used to like those too. The more aggressive, the better for me. I’m like, “This gives me something to chew on.” You’re into that intensity, right?

Totally. I would take the borderline personality disorder. I’d take the hard couples. I was working in addiction, but it led to this. I loved my job and I hated it. It did lead to some burnout. I was in sessions for hour upon hour with people and it felt like talking to somebody for an hour once a week and getting into their brain, their ego and what was going on with them. I did see some positive changes in people’s lives and the good stuff has happened but at times, it felt like I was fighting a battle that I couldn’t win. I’m sure you felt that too as a therapist.

We’re very similar in that way. I used to love it in the beginning and I loved being challenged but I felt this invisible barrier that I could not breakthrough. I know people would have incredible insight and they would feel better, but at a certain point, it felt a resistance. It’s hard to describe.

People from my experience don’t heal from a head level. If I’m pounding information into them, they heal from a soul level

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Not everybody knows that, Brannon. We’re like, “Cognitive-behavioral, let’s do these many interventions.” 

We speak all these acronyms, the modalities but the fact of the matter is when somebody has an experience, be it spiritual or emotional, it starts to shift them and create a process of healing. I can speak all the language of CBT and DBT and whatever BT thing there is out there. Some of the worst therapists I know are the smartest ones who know those modalities better than anybody.

I 100% agree and it’s watching this brain massage going on but there’s nothing happening at the heart or soul level. 

Another thing about my practice is I practice in Utah County, which around here is known as the bubble. People live in this bubble and they don’t realize a world exists outside of Utah County. It’s very LDS. The culture here is very fascinating. I was treating addiction and relationship problems. I gravitated toward treating these members of the church who are in such a rigid religious system that they have so much shame, a hard time being free, being themselves, and connecting to god in a healthy way. It put me at odds a little bit because I was raised in this church yet I was seeing a lot of the culture and systems of the church doing a lot of harm. I was treating that harm in my practice. It made me realize what’s going on here to take a step outside of all of the agreements and the sheds that I’ve made in my life to realize what is truth here and what is healing. That’s my practice now.

Is discovery working with truth? What is healing?

I believe it’s helping people be liberated and free from their shame and their shackles of fear by any means. Whatever it takes for them to step into that fear to practice that courage and overcome, that I believe helps them not be addicted, in their relationships, not to have anxiety and depression. It’s all around.

It’s interesting because what I’m hearing you say is that it was doing, in a way, your deep work with the people, one-to-one when you’re hearing the truth behind the scenes because outside of a therapy office, people wear a mask. They pretend that everything is fine and then you get them behind the door and they start telling the truth. You’re saying that the truth was like, “People are carrying some deep shit.” That’s what made you question more your page.

When you sit in church next to somebody and you see them with their wife and their four kids and life is perfect. Maybe some of those people’s lives are perfect but the chances are they’re not. The chances are they’re grappling with some deep struggle of shame or addiction. It’s not until they can feel safe enough to open up about their struggle that they can start to get past it. When opening up about it means challenging some of the strong beliefs that have been put down on them, it’s scary. It’s almost easier to stay stuck in the struggle than it is to work through the fear of changing your whole paradigm.

That’s for sure, especially with what’s happening on the planet right now with the quarantine, the Coronavirus, and we’re seeing all of us in a way being challenged by every single institution or we’re reflecting on, “Not even the economy is something we can count on.” I feel like you’re talking about that differently. You’re looking at the institution and how helpful are some of this.

Corin, you’re a great example to me and you’ve helped me by your example a lot more than you’ll ever know. One of the things that you’ve been a good example of and one of the things that I’ve discovered over and over again is sometimes the truth is behind the opposite thing of what you think it is. It’s like a paradox. Going to Peru with you, doing plant medicine in San Pedro, that was beaten into my head of what a sin that was, how bad that is, yet that was one of the most liberating, freeing things spiritually, emotionally that I’ve ever done. I’ve never felt closer to God.

TGV 6 | Spiritual Journey

Spiritual Journey: A lot of times, we view God the same way as our experiences with our dad.

 

I have to give you props. For the readers, I took people on a trip into the Sacred Valley in Peru and we had the opportunity or we opened up the door for these people to come and try plant medicine in many cases for the first time. I couldn’t believe that you and your wife, and I’m like, “Salt Lake City is representing. How is this possible?” You are active Mormons. You guys are following the faith. I felt I was enamored by your ability to come and to try it. Can you break it down for me? Because you said it yourself, it’s pounded in you, “This stuff is evil. Everything that’s not this is evil, that’s not our religion is evil.” What did you have to go through to get there?

I’m not rebelling against my beliefs or my culture or anything like that. I’m barely content in my life that I’m not desperate and searching. Although we’re all searching to some degree, I felt like there is more in terms of connection to God. Thank goodness, my wife is a truth seeker and I might still be in my rut in my lane as she pushed me. She’s pushing me to look at a lot of things like having crystals in our house for one. At first, I was like, “What is that?” In fact, I love it. She pushed me to go to Peru on this retreat. I had to grapple with, “Am I sinning? Am I bad? Am I going to hell for this?” I had to let that go to fully immerse myself in the healing experience of the San Pedro. I didn’t want to be sitting there worrying about my sin or I wanted to let the medicine do its thing. You were there Corin. You saw that it did its thing for me.

Let’s say it did its thing for you and for me that day.

If we were to talk about what San Pedro is, it takes you on a journey, but it goes into parts of you. It cleanses you and heals you in ways that you otherwise can’t experience.

This is coming from a therapist. You know what healing is.

That’s why I came home and I have now invited people to go back to Peru with me to experience this because I don’t feel like in my right mind and my integrity, I can continue to sit there and talk to people day-in and day-out about their problems when I know that there are things that do cleanse and heal out there. Despite the culture and the highly religious environment that I’m in, I want to give that opportunity to people. Could I get in trouble for it? Maybe, I don’t know. I don’t care. A lot of people around here if I told them I did that, they’d say, “You’re a druggie. What are you doing? You’re crazy. It’s a midlife crisis. What’s happening to you?” Corin, one of the most healing parts of it for me was going there, experiencing the journey that I went on. When I got home, my mom picked me up from the airport. She drove me to their house where my car was parked and my dad was there. He’s like, “What did you do in Peru?” They had no idea what I was doing in Peru. I told him about Machu Picchu, you and how great it was.

You should see the markets out there. They are so much amazing. The textile is amazing.

I didn’t hesitate and I told them about my San Pedro journey. This is to my parents who raised me in this very strict religion and they were so open and interested. I could tell it spoke to their soul as I was telling them about my experience. We talk about liberation, being free. It was healing for me to be able to say, “I stepped into something that I felt in my soul between God and I was good for me.” When my parents didn’t condemn me, judge me or add shame to that, but they were open to it as well, it came full circle for me. Overall, that was an amazing experience. I’m glad that I had it and there was no shame around it.

That is so powerful in and of itself. You have you claimed it. You’re like, “This is what I did. It was life-changing, mom and dad.”

I was trying to talk to my mom down and go do it with me. We’ll see.

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I remember after the journeys, I came up to you guys and I’m like, “What do you think John Smith would say?” What do you think his take on it would be? I’m curious about your actual journey because I have been working shamanically with plant medicine for many years and each experience is so profound, so different, and it’s hard to wrap your words around but I would love for you to try to articulate the world that we’re in and the world that you were birthed into after your experience.

I’m an empath who works well as a therapist. It’s problematic in some ways. I have a hard time releasing energy and for the decade-plus that I’ve done therapy as much as I’d have tried to let go of a lot of people junk and stuff, I’ve had a hard time. My eye will twitch. I’ll get headaches and that was one of the only things that have worked for me to be done and let go of that stuff. It felt like it had to be torn from my soul a little bit. There was one part of my journey. In Peru, I’m going to sound a little crazy, but Mother Earth, Pachamama was such a part of it and most people purged some of it. I didn’t feel like I needed to. Everybody was coming out of it and I was going in my deepest part of it and they had a closing ceremony. Something about it made me want to be alone a lot because you’re not alone. There’s love all around you. You’re connected to everything.

It takes your ego away, your filter, so you’re not worried about what people think. I went and I sat in front of this fire. It was winter in Peru at that time and it was an indoor fire. I sat there and there was another woman, Mary, who sat there with me and didn’t say anything. I watched the fire, the heat of the fire, and the sweat. I felt her feminine energy and her feminine energy started to nurture me. It was me and nine women mostly there. One at a time, a different woman would come in. One of them started massaging my shoulders. One of them started reading a poem. As this was happening, I started sobbing. I started crying and I was talk about purging. I was purging out all of this energy, all of the stuff that I had held for so long. It was going away and Mother Earth and this feminine energy were taking it. I felt such relief after that. I realized that the mountains and Mother Earth is all around me. Coming home to Utah, I’ve been able to continue to cleanse myself through connecting to nature and things like that but it was so powerful. I can’t put words to it, Corin. That was one of the best parts of my journey.

There are a few things emerging here when I feel into it. When you’re coming from a Mormon faith, that’s extraordinarily patriarchal and then you get dropped off in the belly, which is the Sacred Valley of the mother. I’m happy that you felt the power of the feminine in a whole different way.

The day before you had us lay face down on the grass, I felt that connection then. With the San Pedro, it amplified it to tens of thousands and it was incredible. It’s incredibly healing. They say that plant medicine can be used to treat addiction. Behind what I’ve been taught, there may be the truth. A lot of the highly rigid religious beliefs, whether it’s Mormon or whatever would say going down to Peru and doing drugs is not a good thing for you. Where going down to Peru in the Sacred Valley with shamans all around you and these towering mountains and river, is anything but something that’s feeding and fueling something an addiction.

There’s definitely a paradox in that. It’s because people see something that is drugs and it’s not drugs, it’s a spirit and teacher. The intention that we held there in the Sacred Valley and the sacred energy that we put into it the day before, the shaman, and all the blessings that we did. I feel like it is medicine and it’s medicine for the heart and soul. I’m passionate about it too. As you’re saying, after having that experience, it’s almost like an ethical obligation to share as a therapist. That’s how I felt with the energy and the angel work that I did because the angels were serving me up some good stuff. How could I keep that from the person that’s sitting in front of me in my office that’s crying their ass off and I’m going to pretend like, “Talk through it for another five years.”

You have to step through them thinking you’re a crazy person or that you’re shoving your beliefs down their throat. You’re channeling stuff that’s important for them and if you don’t speak up, then you have to step through any shame or fear that might come up. You’ve done that big time. Was that hard at first?

It was very awkward for me to start stepping into my truth. What my heart knew would help versus this institution that I signed up for like, “Here’s my license. Here are the legal and ethical and all of that stuff.” I had to purge some of that and it took me a while. It didn’t happen overnight because I was still attached to my identity as a therapist. If I’m not a therapist, what am I? I spent tens of thousands of dollars doing this thing. It was challenging but not that challenging because once you cross the threshold, the benefit outweighs any cost because if I lose my license, who cares? My license is on pause because I haven’t needed it. I’m too busy partying with people and helping them. 

Isn’t that crazy?

For you, you are right there and you’re doing it. It took one time, one round in the Sacred Valley and you’re like, “Holy shit, there was a whole other something going on.” Tell me what are your thoughts now as you step into this same world, but here you are confronted against your upbringing, your Utah county, and what you’re doing now.

If you could see me in my group, it would be crazy because I’m very unconventional. Let me give you an example. You don’t talk about sex here. It’s this thing that people do sometimes, but it’s gross, shameful, and horrible. I had a guy who would repent and talk to his ecclesiastical leader. If he saw a billboard that he was attracted to a woman on

TGV 6 | Spiritual Journey

Spiritual Journey: Whatever religion or church, as long as you are using it to love your neighbor and to love God to connect to others, then it’s good.

 

the billboard like it was some horrible, awful sin because he had some attraction to a woman. Some of the shame and the beliefs are very overboard and messed up. I’ll say things in my group that I don’t care if it’s true. We’ll go there and we talk about sexuality. We talk about spirituality. I do this thing with my group called Fire Your God. Let’s talk about who God is to you. If God is this fear-based, nasty, shameful thing, let’s fire that.

Are a lot of these people full-blown conservative? Tell me what happens for people when they’re firing God.

The full-blown conservative like you see on the outside, they’ll go to church and act like, “I’m following perfectly this religion.” When you speak the truth and you speak beyond that, they eat it up. They love it. They can feel the freedom from it. You’ve got to be an example of that for them to do it, to say it.

Otherwise, it’s just theory. Brannon, that’s controversial in such a good way. You say you’re not a rebel and you’re firing God. We don’t believe you anymore. I thought you’re staying in the lines but you’re coloring outside of them.

We are firing the God of fear. We’re doing it.

Thank goodness someone has to do it. This is the information that I get from my mystic side and spirit, is that there’s this counter-movement that’s happening within the organizations. The mystical, whatever you want to call it, earth wisdom, all of that stuff is getting reactivated. I feel like it’s especially getting reactivated right now but that there are people like yourself that are like mentoring candidates planted in there and then you get activated. It’s like the mystical movement or the earth movement is happening. It’s not happening to you to serve anybody. It’s happening to bring things back into balance. That’s my vision. You don’t have to throw out the baby with the bathwater, keep what you’ve got that there’s something beautiful emerging that humans that I feel like we need it or we die.

No matter the culture, religion or whatever, truth is truth. We’re all connected no matter what religion we are. If you find that truth and cannot just speak it but help people experience it and feel it, they’ll resonate with it. It’s interesting because when I meet with people, I’m good at building trust with them and getting them to open up. When they do open up one-on-one, they’ll express their doubts. They’ll talk about their deepest fears and some of those doubts and those fears contradict what they should think or what they should feel according to the system that they’re in. One-on-one, they’ll open up, they’ll share that with me. They’ll be open. The good majority of people are having those same doubts and those same fears, but collectively when you get together, nobody has the guts to start speaking it.

If 1, 2, 3 people can start to be a voice and speak louder, then other people will resonate and start to be able to speak openly too and not living that shame. I did this thing where I went into the church and I was supposed to talk about sex addiction. I was supposed to go there and be like, “Don’t touch your penises. You’re bad because you’ve got a boner or something. Shame on you.” This was years ago and it was at BYU, the Mecca of non-sexuality. I go in there and there are 70 guys sitting there. The guys and the girls split up, so I was talking to the guys and this was right when I started. I said, “Raise your hand if you’ve ever thought about having sex with one of the girls in your congregation.” You think like, “Why would you do that?” It’s funny what happened, Corin. What do you think happened?

My first instinct is no one raised their hand. Did no one raise their hand or all of them started? Did you raise your hand?

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Nobody raised their hand at first. They all looked around like, “He’s putting us in a top weird position because we all know it’s true. We all know that we’ve had a sexual thought about a girl in our ward.” We all know that’s true, but who’s willing to admit it? One courageous guy, and then the guy next to him raise his hand.

The truth catches fire. You just need one.

Look how scary that is for them. I was trying to set them free from those beliefs that shut them down as to who they are.

You launch right into it. You’re a little activator. You’re in there to shake it up a little bit.

It’s like you, Corin. I’ve heard you stay stuff and it’s like, “She just said that.”

As I said before, I feel it’s so inspiring what’s happening with you. You’re right, the truth is emerging no matter where in life you are. Some people are catching the wave of it and they don’t know what to do with it. It’s like they feel bad or ashamed that they’re having these thoughts or I don’t believe in this God anymore. This God sucks.

It causes a real identity crisis because it’s like, “I’m resonating with some truth here but my whole life I’ve been taught that this is what I am.” It’s like, “I don’t want to abandon my culture, my beliefs but I feel this is true over here. What do I do?” That’s important for all of us to go through to some extent.

We need support. I have a lot of people in my communities too that are coming from an intense, traditional background but for some reason, I always wonder like, “Why are you talking to me?” I curse like a sailor.

There’s a reason why they’re talking to you.

The shame and the doubt, but in their heart, they hear a different voice and they’re trying to navigate that so they need support. I’m so glad that you’re there for your people. I was going to ask you, what is the exercise? Is it a long exercise to fire the God of fear?

TGV 6 | Spiritual Journey

Spiritual Journey: So many people spin their wheels looking for answers trying to become better, when in reality, what they needed to do is to just stop, allow God to love them, allow them to love themselves, and allow themselves to be loved by others.

 

It’s simple. I haven’t done it in a little while, so I’m trying to remember. I have them talk about all of the fruits of their relationship with God. A lot of them will get into it and it’s like, “I feel disgusting. I feel perverted. I feel bad. I don’t pray because I’m scared that he’s judging me all the time.” I’ll have him write that all down and then we take it in a group process and we start doing it together. Collectively, they’re starting to connect like, “I feel the same way.” I forget how exactly I have them fire God. They recognize the shame. I’ve had them rewrite a story or an experience that they could have with God if they viewed God differently. Another part of the exercise is for them to dig into their relationship with their dad. A lot of times, we view God the same way that our experience with our dad was. For them to say, “God may be way different than my dad.” For them to explore that process and understand that. It’s interesting because most people will say, “I do see God as my dad in a lot of ways.” I need to do it again. I need to pull that paperwork out.

I love having these conversations. I’m not a religious person as you know. I’m a mystic and I do my thing.

You’re going to hell then, Corin.

I’ll be first in line apparently according to many people that I’ve received emails from. I feel like there’s a real opportunity for us all to start coming together, quit dividing from each other, dividing ourselves from God, dividing ourselves from each other, and start coming together not in shame but love. 

I don’t think that I’d help people find truth in healing. If I became bitter and I was a voice of like, “This religion is horrible and you need to get out of it.” I do much better as a voice of truth on the inside as you say. I don’t need to war with people through this. I need to meet them where they’re at and then help liberate them. It’s how I see it.

It seems like you’ve come past a certain part of the threshold of you doing your journey, which is like, “It does not have to be a war.” You stay in your truth then you tell the truth like you told your parents the truth. I love giving people an opportunity to rewire their brains about God.

I went to a training in Kansas City back in the day. I was getting a little bitter. This is back when I noticed all the harm that the beliefs around me were doing to people. I was getting a little bit like, “This religion and this rigid culture.” I went to this training and I got put to partner with this older woman and she was a very liberal professor. As part of our training, I had to open up some stuff that was going on in my life. I started venting a little bit about the church. I expected her to be like, “That sounds like a quacky, cult, run for the hills.” That’s what I expected from her.

She stopped and thought for a second. She’s like, “You need to be careful what you’re going to throw away because I would have loved to have a community and I would have loved to have a connection.” It felt like God was kicking me in the butt a little bit of like, “Pause for a second.” I can talk the church up all day long. I can rip the church down all day long and tear it apart. I believe whatever religion or church, as long as I’m using it to love my neighbor and to love God and to connect to others, then it’s good. That’s how I use my religion for that.

That’s so wise. I love it that she said that to you. We can move past early childhood. We’re going to tantrum about it. We’re reaching a stage in our maturity in our consciousness where we can have a mature relationship but know that we’re independent. We can make choices.

Know that we’re independent. Our relationship with God has been between us and God.

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Do you have any golden fruit or golden truth or whatever it is you want to frame it that you can leave with our people here?

One of the main things that I’ve learned is that healing is not so much about working harder to become better. Healing is about surrender. It’s about letting go and rediscovering who you are. I see so many people spin their wheels looking for answers, trying to become better when in reality what they needed to do is to stop, allow God to love them, allow them to love themselves, and allow themselves to be loved by another person. That’s where healing takes place. We’ve got this heaping pile of shit on top of us of shame and instead of trying to dig through all of it, recognize that you’re underneath it and that crap is going to fertilize you. You’re already there. You’re already okay as you are. That would be my nugget for the day.

Thank you for that. If our people want to follow you, I know you have some cool things going on. Where do they find out more about your work? I know you have your podcast. How do they find you?

I have BrannonPatrick.com. It is my website. I have different courses on boundaries and healing from the trail and things like that. You can find me at Ask Brannon Anything, that’s my podcast on iTunes. Also, @Brannon_Patrick on Instagram. That’s where you can find me.

Thank you so much for bringing your juju to us. I’m so excited about your journey. I know you’re headed back to Peru. Make sure to check Brannon out. He’s freaking awesome.

Thanks, Corin.

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About Brannon Patrick

TGV 6 | Spiritual JourneyBrannon Patrick is the clinical director and owner of Therapy Utah.  He has treated almost every kind of addiction in every setting. He starting working in an inpatient psychiatric unit and then spent years gaining experience in an intensive outpatient setting. Through his years of clinical work, he has received specialized training in addiction recovery and betrayal trauma recovery.

Brannon has a passion for holistic healing and helping the family members heal. Avid writer, blogger, podcaster, and creator of content. Also known as “The Expert” on his popular podcast “The Betrayed The Addicted and The Expert”.

Brannon Patrick has developed several group systems and programs for addiction recovery. His specialized training as a Certified Sexual Addiction Therapist (CSAT) has helped him learn how to treat sexual addiction and betrayal trauma.

Brannon is not just a “Clinical” therapist but believes in many forms of healing.  He and his wife are facilitating healing retreats in the Sacred Valley in Peru.  At these retreats, he and his friends experience Shamanic Healing Ceremonies and Plant Medicine.  He knows that so much of mental health healing is about cleansing and healing the soul and connecting to Mother Earth.

You can visit Brannon’s site at www.brannonpatrick.com

 

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